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Mar 22, 2016


In this episode, Dave invites Philip McKernan, an inspirational speaker and coach for individuals, couples and entrepreneurs to the EO Podcast. Listen as he talks about finding true meaning in life, becoming authentic, and discerning between happiness and buying material things for distraction.

Time Stamped Show Notes:

  • 00:28 – Dave introduces Philip McKernan
  • 01:22 – Rich on Paper, Poor on Life
  • 01:26 – Dead Man Walking: A Journey from Mindset to Soulset
  • 02:54 – Workplace culture
  • 07:05 – Three Pillars of Happiness or Finding Meaning:
    • Work
    • Self
    • Other
  • 08:13 – They (employees) want to know that they matter.
  • 08:40 – Stop telling people what you believe, start showing them by the way you act
  • 08:52 – Everyone around you will get inspired by what you do, not by what words are coming out of your mouth
  • 09:28 – Working with individuals and couples
  • 11:06 – They’re scared to find out perhaps that the relationship is not as great as they’ve been telling themselves every single day
  • 11:29 – Our benchmark for what great is, is what we historically experienced in business, in life, and in relationships.
  • 12:24 – Creating conversations they don’t want to have, they don’t know how to have, or they don’t think they should have
  • 13:17 – Philip doesn’t believe in the phrase, “Fake it ‘til you make it”
  • 14:09 – We are all leaders if we choose to be; We just lead in different ways
  • 16:15 – We spend so much time trying to pretend –trying to be something that we are not –assuming and hoping it will take us where we want to be
    • 16:25 – In that process (pretending) we lose ourselves, we lose our identity and we dilute the essence of who we are.
  • 17:05 – Retreats
  • 18:51 – Wisdom doesn’t lie
  • 19:47 – Why Philip left Ireland
  • 20:15 – Tall Poppy Syndrome
  • 21:17 – The Ireland that I knew was starting to get diluted.
  • 21:22 – Everybody was chaotically chasing the money on the assumption that it would bring them the happiness
  • 21:28 – There’s no problem pursuing financial wealth but not at the cost of all the other elements of our lives
  • 22:00 – It is very difficult to find the authenticity of who you really are
  • 22:48 – The work that you do should never define who you are as an individual
  • 23:19 – Philip’s transition from real estate to where he is now
  • 23:40 – Authenticity is something that should never be self-proclaimed
  • 26:20 – Time is not our greatest asset
  • 26:36 – The greatest asset of people is themselves
  • 27:40 – As the leader grows, so should their leadership style
  • 28:00 – Allowing the work to catch up on you
  • 28:22 – In the absence of clarity, take action
  • 29:59 – Helping people find what they’re meant to do
    • I didn’t find what I was meant to do… I uncovered it.
    • Is it possible to uncover it
  • 31:55 – What’s the point of coming to work on something you don’t believe in?
  • 33:25 – Have I taken the time out of my life to ensure that I’m on the right path?
  • 35:15 – The magic question of a salesman – How so?
  • 35:40 – Money Can’t Buy Me Happiness but it Can Buy Me a Boat - Chris Johanson
  • 36:25 – Relationship between material things and happiness
  • 38:05 – Buying material things for a distraction because you’re not willing to face the real issue
  • 39:04 – Details on the Dead Man Walking: A Journey from Mindset to Soulset
  • 40:34 – Goal setting is not the enemy; The problem is the goals we are setting aren’t aligned to who we are
  • 41:50 – If you are not being authentic, then the goals you think you wanted are actually, potentially partly or entirely are not authentic
  • 43:52 – Let go of this overwhelming need to set goals and allow our goals to find us
  • 44:00 – When you’re too busy chasing something, you miss out on something else
  • 47:35 – Entrepreneur’s intuition
  • 49:49 – Dealing with negativity
  • 51:50 – When you understand the negative patterns, the origin of negativity, the origin of the fear, the next time it strikes will not be as deep –it loosens its grip on you
  • 52:52 – Almost got killed by an elephant in Nigeria
  • 55:05 – We don’t want the world to judge us
  • 55:40 – Raising children

3 Key Points:

  1. Stop telling people what to believe, start showing them by action
  2. The greatest asset of any man or woman has is themselves.
  3. When you’re chasing something obsessively, you’re missing something else.

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